romney said something the other night that none of you people caught or didn't care to comment about. i mean the media. when he talked about cutting back on government, he made it very clear he's going to do it by attrition, because he understands, if he does it any other way, he will only aggravate the economic problems we have. so as people quit and retire, but one more thing i would urge you, if you work in the department of commerce and they have, they don't need you, and you, the department of transportation and there's an opening there, whether you have whatever the hell it is, gs number whatever it is, you're given the chance to go to that job or you're told you're being exited. there's a lot of ways that can be done and it will be done. the thing i feel confident about is this man has the experience of having done it many times before. >> and watching it, it seems like it's what it seemed like, too, didn't it? >> what? >> watching the debate. >> of course. well one guy didn't have the crib sheet, he didn't have the teleprompter so he was in trouble automatically. the second th